Grace in Conflict, Part Two

Welcome back for part two of our wonderful conversation with Jessica Murrey! Be sure to listen to part one before diving in – we will be back with Episode 6 on February 8th.

Jessica is a peacebuilder and Common Ground activist with Search for Common Ground, an international peacebuilding organization devoted to ending violent conflict. She is the co-CEO of Wicked Saints Studios and is currently creating a role-player game for teenagers to practice healthy conflict. After a long career traveling the world, working as a peacebuilder, a writer, and for the Senate Majority Leader in DC, she is back in her hometown of Southern Oregon.

Listen as Jessica shares of the practical tools for experiencing grace in conflicts, why conflicts are necessary, and how to emerge from conflict stronger and more connected to the “other side” than ever. Failure is not the end; conflict is only the beginning of growth.

Heather Converse is a certified life coach and owner of Tree of Life Consulting. Mandy Capehart is a writer and grief coach, currently working through her first manuscript. Both love difficult conversations, leaning into tension, and producing the kind of uncomfortable atmosphere that unearths beauty and champions growth. We’re so glad you’re here!

Resources:
Wicked Saints Studios – https://www.wickedsaints.studio/
Search for Common Ground – https://www.sfcg.org/
Yemen: What You Need to Know and How to Help – https://www.unicef.org/emergencies/yemen-crisis
I Am Your Protector – https://iamyourprotector.org/

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The Uncomfortable Grace Podcast is mixed & produced by Kaylene Brown.

Connect with Mandy & Heather on Instagram:
@mandycapehart
@heatherconverse12
@UncomfortableGracePodcast

Grace in Conflict, Part One

Jessica Murrey is a peacebuilder and Common Ground activist with Search for Common Ground, an international peacebuilding organization devoted to ending violent conflict. She is the co-CEO of Wicked Saints Studios and is currently creating a role-player game for teenagers to practice healthy conflict. After a long career traveling the world, working as a peacebuilder, a writer, and for the Senate Majority Leader in DC, she is back in her hometown of Southern Oregon.

Listen as Jessica shares of the practical tools for experiencing grace in conflicts, why conflicts are necessary, and how to emerge from conflict stronger and more connected to the “other side” than ever. Failure is not the end; conflict is only the beginning of growth.

This one is a two-parter! There was too much gold in our talk with Jess, so rather than cut some of it out, we broke it up. Part two will be released Sunday, January 31.

Heather Converse is a certified life coach and owner of Tree of Life Consulting. Mandy Capehart is a writer and grief coach, currently working through her first manuscript. Both love difficult conversations, leaning into tension, and producing the kind of uncomfortable atmosphere that unearths beauty and champions growth. We’re so glad you’re here!

Resources:
Wicked Saints Studios – https://www.wickedsaints.studio/
Search for Common Ground – https://www.sfcg.org/
Yemen: What You Need to Know and How to Help – https://www.unicef.org/emergencies/yemen-crisis
I Am Your Protector – https://iamyourprotector.org/

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The Uncomfortable Grace Podcast is mixed & produced by Kaylene Brown.

Connect with Mandy & Heather on Instagram:
@mandycapehart
@heatherconverse12
@UncomfortableGracePodcast

Grace in Listening

Kaylene Brown is so much more than our show producer! This woman is a powerhouse of empathy, understanding, and confidence… but she didn’t come by it easily. Join us as she walks through the not-so-fun murky waters of misunderstanding. Learning how to listen is a gift!

Heather Converse is a certified life coach and owner of Tree of Life Consulting. Mandy Capehart is a writer and grief coach, currently working through her first manuscript. Both love difficult conversations, leaning into tension, and producing the kind of uncomfortable atmosphere that unearths beauty and champions growth.

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The Uncomfortable Grace Podcast is mixed & produced by Kaylene Brown.

Connect with Mandy & Heather on Instagram:
@mandycapehart
@heatherconverse12
@UncomfortableGracePodcast

 

The Irony of Discomfort

 

It’s Kaylene!

Oh, dear friends. It’s almost time for the release of episode 4, featuring our insightful and hilarious producer Kaylene Brown. As an self-described “extreme introvert,” we were so honored to host a story from her in the first place.

We recorded this episode together nearly a year ago, as with the three previously released episodes. It would be safe to say that we’ve improved as interviewers in the last year, and I cannot tell you how grateful I am to say just that!

Listening back to the first four episodes of this podcast a year after recording has been equal parts encouraging and humbling. Recently, I reached out to our dear Kaylene for some personal feedback. Hearing your own voice and methods on the airwaves will trigger insecurities you thought you’d outgrown, and such was the case yet again.

“I think you’re just being really critical of yourself.”

Y’all. Find yourself a Kaylene. If you do not have someone in your storyline willing to point out the dramatic, unkind thoughts you host about yourself from time to time… well. You’re missing out.

Kaylene’s story (brief though it may be) is RICH with the same willingness to offer grace in her own life as well as to mine. Learning to listen and value the voice of others can be the lifeline you need when intrusive thoughts would rather shut you down.

While I could complain about the discomfort of publishing work I’m less than thrilled about, I can also recognize the beauty of allowing my work to exist, regardless of any perceived lack. Because WE are humans, and we exist, regardless of any perceived lack. Our lack is exactly why the grace of God is so beautiful, inviting, and necessary in our story.

The podcast will never be perfect, because it was never meant to be perfect. It was meant to be uncomfortable.

May we each find a new level of grace in the ironic celebrations of discomfort.

Enjoy the new episode,

Mandy

How You Build Your Story Matters

Three questions from discomfort to spur your growth.

Yesterday, episode three of the Uncomfortable Grace Podcast sailed on the audio waves into homes across the nation. So far my co-host and I have discussed discomfort, tension, and growth: Three topics that will run as undercurrents for every episode to follow. Although we already have a handful of new episodes in the hold, I want to take a moment to refocus and adjust our sails. These are questions we ask ourselves each time we rise, and we invite you to ask yourself the same.

image of sailborders on choppy water, with one tipping over completely in the foreground.
Photo by Brett Jordan on Unsplash

1. What are you passionate about?

Finding what stirs and ignites your soul matters. What you are building for yourself and your future matters. There is a deeply rooted passion in your spirit; not a calling, not a job, not a career. Finding what thrills can feel daunting and overwhelming. It can take a lifetime, but it doesn’t have to! What you are passionate about is what moves the needle toward wholeness and happiness in your life. Where do you experience the most joy in your daily life? Is it so infrequent that it only happens once in a blue moon? That’s okay! But nail it down. What is the thing that makes your chest feel heavy and light all at the same time?

It’s time for you to admit that you crave purpose, connection, and creation. Your contribution to the world may be the very thing that moves the needle toward wholeness for a stranger across the globe! Take a risk today — observe your story like an outsider, looking in. What do you see in your story that sets your heart on fire?

2. Can you silence/befriend the critics, inside and out?

Sight into your story is one thing. Navigating toward the source without being shot down by the critics is quite another. Many a ship has taken on water, between the crashing waves from our inner critic and from the assumptions we make about the opinion of others.

Confronting the external critics comes easier once you’ve learned to befriend the one inside your heart. We can learn and practice dismissing the opinions from those we would never seek advice. Those critics outside of the stadium get no play on these airwaves. But as a former risk-averse creative paralyzed by fear, I’ve found the one true way to combat my inner critic: Embrace.

My inner critic is still me. Sometimes she runs her mouth, talking a big game but really hiding behind insecurity. She’ll often quote something that sounds like wisdom but feels like frostbite. But when I realized my inner critic was my 10-year-old self, watching the moments of risk with wary eyes because of the potential for pain and failure, I was able to offer her a moment of grace.

My inner critic wants to keep me safe, security, certain, and protected. My inner critic has been with me through the trauma and loss and is too easily rundown by fighting her good fight all on her own. It is my joy to remind her that she fights at my side, covered with the authority I carry through life. She is not alone. And neither are you.

Befriend your inner critic. Treat that child inside as the vulnerable, hopeful, and scared kid. This is intense, difficult work! But you can do hard things well! Not because you are innately talented at hard things, but because you can recognize where you need support, affection, and grace through the challenges.

3. How can you uncover growth through tension?

You have one life. One chance to uncover the richness of your story, your life, and live wildly with a heart on fire. That chance will present itself to you repeatedly until you finally welcome it in the door. Tension shows up, inviting you deeper. Tension is the catalyst for your story bubbling to the surface.

When we embrace our story, we owe it to ourselves (and that inner critic) to accept all sides. No story is without shadows. If you hate the idea of pulling your precious ideals, passions, and story off the pedestal — take heart. You’re not alone in the resistance to such an uncomfortable invitation, but if the promise of peace means anything to you… then this is a beautiful place to start.

Accessing peace is like any other process — start where you are with what you have. There is no magic formula or shortcut to take. Simply acknowledge that tension begets growth. If you want it, you can have it. You just need to be willing to push back. After all, it’s only the wind that moves the sails.

Big gratitude from me!

Mandy